Dustin James ([info]dustinjames) wrote,
@ 2008-06-04 05:42:00
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I'll be in the Seattle Times again
I got a phone call last night from the same Seattle Times reporter who interviewed me for the earlier article. She tried to goad me into saying that I would vote for McCain in the fall, but I told her the truth, that I would vote for Hillary Clinton either as a write-in or our party's nominee.

She asked me if there was anything Obama could do to earn my vote, and I simply said "Nobama." She laughed, so I think that's going to be the quote she's going to use for me.

But then I went in to all the policy differences that I completely disagree with him on and how its a lot more than the "5%" that everyone keeps trying to shove down my throat. I said I'd have to change my "Hillary 08" shirt to a "Hillary 12" shirt and asked her if she knew of any good graphic designers to help me make it happen. She giggled at that again.

I'll post the article when I see it.


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[info]alice_curiouser
2008-06-04 02:02 pm UTC (link)
I am so stealing that NObama logo for my userinfo.

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[info]thefreek
2008-06-04 03:42 pm UTC (link)
a write-in vote for Hillary would be a vote for McCain

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[info]dustinjames
2008-06-04 04:24 pm UTC (link)
McCain sort of speaks my language better than Obama does at this point anyway.

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[info]thefreek
2008-06-04 05:22 pm UTC (link)
that's retarded

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[info]dustinjames
2008-06-04 06:16 pm UTC (link)
So:

McCain will not raise my payroll taxes. SERIOUSLY huge issue for me here. HUGE. Payroll taxes can't be deducted on my income tax at the end of the year, so on a Payroll tax increase, Obama is double screwing me both with a tax increase and a non-deductible one at that.

I can continue.

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[info]thefreek
2008-06-04 06:23 pm UTC (link)
so your language is republican?

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[info]dustinjames
2008-06-04 06:37 pm UTC (link)
It is in the middle. Fiscally, I'm way more conservative on issues than I am liberal. Socially, I'm way more liberal on issues than I am conservative.

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[info]thefreek
2008-06-04 06:40 pm UTC (link)
so you're like Lieberman and your wallet speaks louder than your heart?

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[info]dustinjames
2008-06-04 08:26 pm UTC (link)
No, I voted for a candidate that satisfied my wallet AND my heart, and now I have to choose between candidates that satisfy my wallet OR my heart.

And both have serious problems.

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[info]thefreek
2008-06-05 05:43 am UTC (link)
so which is it?

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[info]dustinjames
2008-06-05 03:01 pm UTC (link)
At this point it's a write-in for Hillary or McCain. I've decided I'm not voting Obama this fall. I distrust him, I think he talks out of his ass, and I think my checkbook would be dead by the time he's done with it.

But, I don't come to that too lightly, I think about what he might do to help me change my mind:

1) Propose a health care plan that would cover me. (Right now, as a 31 year old uninsured white guy, his plan does NOTHING for me)

2) Apologize for his vote for the 2005 energy bill and vow to repeal those hundreds of billions of tax break savings in the form of largess profit taxes on the oil companies that he so generously gave them. Billionaires don't need tax breaks.

3) Promise not to impose a payroll tax that affects middle class people like me, and generally revise his whole economic plans so that he doesn't keep borrowing $300 billion from foreign governments each year to pay for his new spending proposals, adding to the deficit.

Something like those three would make me look at him again, but at the moment, he's dead to me.

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[info]dustinjames
2008-06-04 04:26 pm UTC (link)
Of the two presumptive presidential nominees, one of them voted for and one voted against the 2005 Cheney energy bill authorizing hundreds of billions of dollars in tax breaks to Big Oil and Big Ethanol, when Big Oil was already reporting BILLION dollar profits per quarter and Big Ethanol was long profitable (see Archer Midlands profit statement for an eye opening)

Obama voted for it, McCain and Clinton voted against it. Nobama committed Democratic Treason with that vote.

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[info]thefreek
2008-06-04 05:31 pm UTC (link)
Here's a great article that explains how/why he fucked up on that vote.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-roberts/what-does-the-2005-energy_b_83130.html

You seriously think that McCain will never fuck up? ever? constantly?

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[info]dustinjames
2008-06-04 06:17 pm UTC (link)
No, but it's sort of like all those democrats who wouldn't vote for Hillary because of her war vote, committing treason on a Cheney energy bill is just unforgivable. There are other issues that he can fuck up on and I'd let it slide. Like the 30% cap on credit card interest rates that he voted against. It was the wrong move, but I'd led that slide.

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[info]thefreek
2008-06-04 06:25 pm UTC (link)
so your argument is that since the obama fanatics are fanatical... you're going to be just as rabidly fanatic for clinton?

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[info]dustinjames
2008-06-04 06:38 pm UTC (link)
Sure, I can respect their decisions to not vote for her on that issue, and i've never given anyone crap for it.

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[info]thefreek
2008-06-04 06:42 pm UTC (link)
yet you give crap to obama supporters (rabid or not) 50x a day

how about toning down the fanaticism?

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[info]dustinjames
2008-06-04 08:33 pm UTC (link)
I give crap to Obama 50x a day. I give crap to his supporters maybe once every two weeks. If you look over my diary, you'll see my target is Obama, not his supporters.

But then again, I honestly don't understand why people like him, but that's not really the point of my blog and why I wrote so many pro-Hillary posts, because it was she that was my main target, not him.

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[info]khudirambose
2008-06-04 05:05 pm UTC (link)
A vote for "Person A", is only a vote for "Person A", and nothing else.

If you want to presribe a motive to it, that's your business. Democracy won't work if we all vote out of fear or out of fads.

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[info]thefreek
2008-06-04 05:25 pm UTC (link)
sorry, but your semantics fail in practice

it's not like you can vote for as many people as you want and sing kumbaya

we're all allowed only one vote

in a our two party system, failure to vote for Person O is one less vote Person M needs to win

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[info]khudirambose
2008-06-04 05:56 pm UTC (link)
Sorry, but your practice fails the facts.

This is not a two party system. I count at least 9 parties.

Again, if you want to say that only two parties "matter", that's you adding your opinion. Opinion is not the same as fact.

I can see how the distinction would be confusing in this political climate.

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[info]thefreek
2008-06-04 06:00 pm UTC (link)
show me a candidate in this race that is not in the two parties but will be on the ballot

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[info]khudirambose
2008-06-04 06:10 pm UTC (link)
I can only assume you're joking here.

Bob Barr was just announced for the Libertarian Party, and appearently will be on tonight's Colbert Report.

There is also Gloria La Riva, Gene Amondson, Cynthia McKinney, Brian Moore, Roger Calero, etc.

Unless you're arguing that I made up those names, it would seem that they are real people and are really running.

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[info]thefreek
2008-06-04 06:25 pm UTC (link)
all wonderful people who don't have a chance in hell

so... back to the two parties

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[info]dustinjames
2008-06-04 06:39 pm UTC (link)
Isn't that what they said about Perot (although with Barr and Nader I agree)

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[info]thefreek
2008-06-04 06:45 pm UTC (link)
if any of those candidates can muster up 5% of the popular vote to qualify for federally distributed public funding, more power to them.

i just don't see it happening. not in this election.

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[info]khudirambose
2008-06-04 07:14 pm UTC (link)
Wel, that's your choice. Unlike yourself, I won't tell people who they can and can not vote for.

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[info]thefreek
2008-06-04 07:19 pm UTC (link)
obviously i'm not telling people who they can and cannot vote for, i'm just letting them know that it's a waste

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[info]neurotic_orchid
2008-06-04 07:36 pm UTC (link)
A write-in for Hillary would be a vote "against" Obama.

Kind of like those uncommitteds, apparently...

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